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		<title><![CDATA[Outdated Advice For Job Applicants]]></title>
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				<dc:creator><![CDATA[Terence Eden]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Sep 2021 11:32:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I was recently asked to look at some advice for new graduates entering the workforce. It was the usual mix of helpful, obvious, and trite. You know the sort - tailor your application to the job specification, make sure your CV is spelled correctly, don&#039;t give up, etc.  In the middle of it, was this doozy. &#34;Put your application in a gold coloured envelope so it stands out from the crowd!&#34;  This…]]></description>
										<content:encoded>&lt;p&gt;I was recently asked to look at some advice for new graduates entering the workforce. It was the usual mix of helpful, obvious, and trite. You know the sort - tailor your application to the job specification, make sure your CV is spelled correctly, don't give up, etc.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;In the middle of it, was this doozy. "Put your application in a gold coloured envelope so it stands out from the crowd!"&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;This struck me as… &lt;em&gt;unusual&lt;/em&gt; advice. But I checked against the Twitter hive mind.&lt;/p&gt;

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&lt;p&gt;I remember, during my first job hunt, being told by well-meaning advisers to "walk into the office, ask to speak to the manager, and hand over your CV! Remember a firm handshake!"&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Even at the fag-end of the last century (why am I &lt;em&gt;so old?!&lt;/em&gt;) this was objectively terrible advice.  Most places wanted you to fill in a standardised application form. Sure, there were a handful of small places which would take an unsolicited CV - but they were extremely rare. And, frankly, not the sort of places which would be a springboard for a career.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Today... I can't even remember the last time I posted off a job application. Most of the things I see don't even have a postal address available. It's either "fill in this crappy online form…" or "send an email to…" or "attend this webinar to register…"&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I've run dozens of recruitment campaigns - at senior and junior level - and I can't &lt;em&gt;ever&lt;/em&gt; remember receiving a physical application form.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Would there be some novelty in receiving a coloured envelope? Sure! But I doubt I'd see it. Assuming the mail reached the right member of staff (who is probably WFH) - they'll be on the HR team. They're not going to care about one envelope - just whether you've put the right keywords to make it past the sift.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Of course, maybe my rarefied tech-industry lifestyle has left me ignorant to what things are like in the "real world". I don't doubt there are &lt;em&gt;some&lt;/em&gt; industries where turning up unsolicited with a CV is a good way to get a foot in the door. And I'm sure some businesses run mainly on snail-mail. And having an online-&lt;strong&gt;only&lt;/strong&gt; application discriminates against the digitally excluded.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;But giving this sort of outdated advice to new entrants in the job market is just cruel.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<title><![CDATA[Dear Recruitment Consultants]]></title>
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				<dc:creator><![CDATA[Terence Eden]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Sep 2011 14:47:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I regularly get contacted by recruitment consultants.  Even though I&#039;m very happy in my job right now (Hi Boss!) I usually don&#039;t mind being contacted.  However, after having just had a particularly disturbing encounter with a recruiter, I thought it might be worth stating these rules up front.  These are personal to me - but I expect they apply pretty broadly to most people.       Don&#039;t email my…]]></description>
										<content:encoded>&lt;p&gt;I regularly get contacted by recruitment consultants.  Even though I'm very happy in my job right now (Hi Boss!) I usually don't mind being contacted.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;However, after having just had a particularly disturbing encounter with a recruiter, I thought it might be worth stating these rules up front.  These are personal to me - but I expect they apply pretty broadly to most people.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;ol&gt;
    &lt;li&gt;Don't email my work address.&lt;/li&gt;
    &lt;li&gt;Tell me who your client is up front.&lt;/li&gt;
    &lt;li&gt;Don't lie to me.&lt;/li&gt;
    &lt;li&gt;Don't alter my CV.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Don't "connect" on LinkedIn.&lt;/li&gt;
    &lt;li&gt;Spell my name correctly.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ol&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Let's take them in order.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;h2 id="contact"&gt;&lt;a href="https://shkspr.mobi/blog/2011/09/dear-recruitment-consultants/#contact"&gt;Contact&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/h2&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Don't email me at work.  You don't know if my boss monitors my email.  You don't know if I'm in the middle of a presentation - where having an Outlook Pop-up of "New Role For You" could be a career limiting move.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;This is just basic manners.  I don't know a single reputable recruiter who would contact a prospective client at work.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Oh, and ringing my work number and telling the receptionist that you've got a job for me? Not smart.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Don't bother contacting me through &lt;a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/TerenceEden"&gt;my LinkedIn profile&lt;/a&gt;.  If you can't find my phone number and email address, I don't want you representing me.  I'm not going to add you as a contact until after you get me a job - although I'll happily introduce you to other suitable candidates if I can.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;h2 id="who"&gt;&lt;a href="https://shkspr.mobi/blog/2011/09/dear-recruitment-consultants/#who"&gt;Who&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/h2&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I've pissed off a lot of recruiters by asking this simple question.  I have my reasons.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;To start with, there are certain companies I don't want to work for.  In addition, I can't craft a CV or application unless I know who it is going to.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I've no desire to work hard on an application only to find out the role is for a company which tests cosmetic cigarettes on kittens.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Second, and more prosaically, I need to know where it is in order that I can see if I want to commute there.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Essentially, after a lot of effort, I don't want to find that you want me to work on the outskirts of Wapping for the News of the World.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Very occasionally, I let the recruiter play the "I can't tell you - but I'll give you a clue" game.  That's where they don't break client confidentiality - but say "A large religious organisation whose nearest Tube station is Goodge Street."  That way I don't waste anyone's time by applying to the &lt;a href="http://www.xenu.net/"&gt;Scientologists&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;h2 id="dont-lie"&gt;&lt;a href="https://shkspr.mobi/blog/2011/09/dear-recruitment-consultants/#dont-lie"&gt;Don't Lie&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/h2&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Don't tell me you have a killer job at NASA when you don't.  Because, regardless of the company, I'll check it out myself to see if the job really exists - or if you just want to put more clients on your books.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Don't say that they're looking for senior position when they want a junior.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Don't say they're willing to pay top-dollar.  Give me the salary bands and let me discuss that with the company.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Don't say they're happy for me to serve a 3 month notice period - when they need someone to start ASAP.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Annoyingly, I've had all of the above happen to me.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;h2 id="my-cv"&gt;&lt;a href="https://shkspr.mobi/blog/2011/09/dear-recruitment-consultants/#my-cv"&gt;My CV&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/h2&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I wouldn't claim my CV is a work of art - but I've spent some time perfecting it.  It's designed to get me through the door and in to an interview - and it works.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I'm always happy to take advice about what sort of parts to emphasise but I'm not going to drastically change it.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;If you really want me to take off my phone number and email address, I won't.  Any competent company will Google me to find it.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Do not, under any circumstances, alter what I put on there.  If I go to an interview am asked about something which I didn't include on my original CV, I will not be best pleased.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I now, as a rule, only provide PDF CVs.  That way, there's less chance of a recruiter altering my work.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;h2 id="linkedin"&gt;&lt;a href="https://shkspr.mobi/blog/2011/09/dear-recruitment-consultants/#linkedin"&gt;LinkedIn&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/h2&gt;

&lt;p&gt;If I haven't worked with you - I'm not going to connect with you.  If nothing else, it sends off a big red flag to my co-workers that I'm planning on moving.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;If you try to connect to me on LinkedIn, it tells me two things about you.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;ol&gt;
&lt;li&gt;You're too cheap to &lt;a href="http://www.linkedin.com/static?key=about_inmail"&gt;buy InMail&lt;/a&gt;.  You don't need to send me a bogus request - you can pay to email me.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;You couldn't be bothered to do an Internet search for my email address.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ol&gt;

&lt;p&gt;In either case, the answer is the same; "no"!&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;h2 id="spelling"&gt;&lt;a href="https://shkspr.mobi/blog/2011/09/dear-recruitment-consultants/#spelling"&gt;Spelling&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/h2&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Bonus! &lt;a href="https://twitter.com/MatStace/status/117022260556079104"&gt;Suggested by Mat Stace&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;If a job pimp sends unsolicited email, and spells your name incorrectly, it's fine to be a bit rude in your reply, right?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I get this &lt;em&gt;so&lt;/em&gt; often. My name is "Terence". Get the right number of Es and Rs, please. Note: the letter A should be conspicuous in its absence.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;h2 id="conclusion"&gt;&lt;a href="https://shkspr.mobi/blog/2011/09/dear-recruitment-consultants/#conclusion"&gt;Conclusion&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/h2&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I'm always happy to hear from recruiters - as long as they're happy to follow the above rules.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;If I can't take the job you're offering, I'll be happy to recommend someone else.&lt;/p&gt;
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