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					<description><![CDATA[In which the BPI threaten to sue me.  Last night I was fortunate enough to find myself addressing the All-Party Parliamentary Group on the Digital Economy Act.  Eric Joyce MP managed to bring together a diverse group of people from all sides of the debate for a (mostly) civil discussion on the Act, its limitations, and potential problems.  MPs and Musicians in Perfect Harmony  This was exactly …]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2 id="in-which-the-bpi-threaten-to-sue-me"><a href="https://shkspr.mobi/blog/2010/07/digital-economy-act-deappg/#in-which-the-bpi-threaten-to-sue-me">In which the BPI threaten to sue me.</a></h2>

<p>Last night I was fortunate enough to find myself addressing the <a href="http://ericjoycemp.wordpress.com/2010/06/29/all-party-parliamentary-group-on-digital-economy-open-event-on-27-jul-10/">All-Party Parliamentary Group on the Digital Economy Act</a>.&nbsp; Eric Joyce MP managed to bring together a diverse group of people from all sides of the debate for a (mostly) civil discussion on the Act, its limitations, and potential problems.</p>

<p></p><div id="attachment_2235" style="width: 235px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><a href="https://shkspr.mobi/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/IMG_20100727_211414.jpg"><img aria-describedby="caption-attachment-2235" class="size-medium wp-image-2235" title="MPs and Musicians in Perfect Harmony" src="https://shkspr.mobi/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/IMG_20100727_211414-225x300.jpg" alt="MPs and Musicians in Perfect Harmony" width="225" height="300"></a><p id="caption-attachment-2235" class="wp-caption-text">MPs and Musicians in Perfect Harmony</p></div><p></p>

<p>This was exactly the sort of discussion which should have taken place <em>before</em> the bill became law.&nbsp; Sadly, we're left with trying to correct an extremely illiberal and technically infeasible piece of legislation.</p>

<p>I'll recount the highlights to the best of my memory - any corrections or clarifications gratefully received.</p>

<p><span id="more-2231"></span>Representatives of the <a href="http://bpi.co.uk/">BPI</a> - a trade group who claim to be the "voice of the UK recorded music business" - were in attendance.</p>

<p>The BPI made an extraordinary claim that this act isn't even needed.&nbsp; They were confident that existing laws would be enough for them to pursue copyright infringement.&nbsp; They weren't challenged on this statement - <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2010/mar/11/digital-economy-bill-amendment-lobbyists">why lobby for a bill if you don't need it</a>?</p>

<p>The BPI also claimed that their methods or evidence gathering are robust and proven in the high court.&nbsp; I can't find a good source for this claim - but, again, <a href="http://boingboing.net/2010/03/12/leaked-uk-record-ind.html">why lobby for a bill they didn't need</a>.</p>

<p>The representative from <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20100703011155/http://www.fastiis.org/our_services/lobbying/">FAST</a> seemed to say that they were speaking for the entire software industry. Many of us don't mind our code being shared freely.&nbsp; Having said that, FAST did make some good points about how Open Source derived a lot of its protection from strong copyright laws.</p>

<p>Representatives from libraries made an excellent point about their liability.&nbsp; There seems to be no definition of responsibilities - are libraries communications providers? Are they liable for what their users get up to?</p>

<p></p><div id="attachment_2234" style="width: 310px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><a href="https://shkspr.mobi/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/IMG_20100727_211422.jpg"><img aria-describedby="caption-attachment-2234" class="size-medium wp-image-2234" title="I love the smell of democracy in the evening..." src="https://shkspr.mobi/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/IMG_20100727_211422-300x225.jpg" alt="I love the smell of democracy in the evening..." width="300" height="225"></a><p id="caption-attachment-2234" class="wp-caption-text">I love the smell of democracy in the evening...</p></div><p></p>

<h2 id="taking-on-the-bpi"><a href="https://shkspr.mobi/blog/2010/07/digital-economy-act-deappg/#taking-on-the-bpi">Taking On The BPI</a></h2>

<p>Not being a professional lobbyist - nor representing anyone other than myself - I was surprised to be allowed to address the room.</p>

<p>I made an unprepared and impassioned speech about the one sided nature of the bill.&nbsp; Others will corroborate or correct, but the gist of what I said was...</p>

<ul>
    <li> This bill is massively one sided.</li>
    <li> There has been no lobbying (or donations) by regular citizens - only by corporate interests.</li>
    <li> The bill contains no penalties for incompetent or malicious prosecution.</li>
    <li><a href="http://www.ispreview.co.uk/story/2010/01/27/acs-law-uk-accused-of-sending-wrongful-isp-piracy-threat-letters.html">ACS Law has already drawn the ire of many consumer groups for sending threatening letters with no apparent basis in fact</a>.</li>
    <li> If I can be cut off the Internet after three accusations, why wont BPI members be cut off after three incorrect prosecutions?</li>
    <li> Given the criminal nature of the BPI, why should we trust them to bring prosecutions in a fair or just manner?</li>
    <li>Rather than relying on private enterprise to pursue these cases - why can't the alleged copyright holders go through the normal legal channels?</li>
</ul>

<p>One of the ways you know you've hit a nerve in a conversation is with the ferocity of the reply...</p>

<p>The response from the BPI was swift and harsh. To he best of my recollection they said</p>

<blockquote>"if you were to write those allegations in a newspaper, we would sue you."</blockquote>

<p>In my haste, I had (erroneously) stated that the BPI was guilty of massive abuses of trust and had operated an illegal cartel which had been convicted of price fixing.</p>

<p>Crikey! Was I about to rely on <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parliamentary_privilege">Parliamentary Privilege</a> extending to random blokes sitting in a committee room?</p>

<p><a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/2289224.stm">In 2002 the following record companies were fined a combined $143 million for illegal activity</a>:
Sony Music - <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20100923062145/http://www.bpi.co.uk/category/our-members.aspxx#S">member of the BPI</a>
Warner Music - <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20100923062145/http://www.bpi.co.uk/category/our-members.aspx#W">member of the BPI</a>
EMI Group - <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20100923062145/http://www.bpi.co.uk/category/our-members.aspx#E">member of the BPI</a>
BMG Music - now a part of Sony.  I'm reasonably sure BMG were a member of the BPI at the time.
Vivendi Music Group - not a member of the BPI, although its subsidiary <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20100923062145/http://www.bpi.co.uk/category/our-members.aspx#U">Universal Music</a> is a member.</p>

<p>So, I had erred. The BPI has <strong>never</strong> sent a threatening letter. The BPI has <strong>never</strong> engaged in price fixing. The BPI - <a href="https://www.bpi.co.uk/about-bpi">which is entirely funded by its members</a> - has never engaged in illegal activity.</p>

<p>I am happy to set the record straight.</p>

<p>Furthermore, I am sure that my concerns about the <a href="http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/02/05/riaa_sues_the_dead/">standard of evidence</a> which will be presented by these <a href="https://www.michaelgeist.ca/2009/12/pending-case-lawsuit/">upstanding corporations </a>are entirely unfounded.</p>

<p></p><div id="attachment_2236" style="width: 310px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><a href="https://shkspr.mobi/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/IMG_20100727_204345.jpg"><img aria-describedby="caption-attachment-2236" class="size-medium wp-image-2236" title="Best view from any bar in London?" src="https://shkspr.mobi/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/IMG_20100727_204345-300x225.jpg" alt="Best view from any bar in London?" width="300" height="225"></a><p id="caption-attachment-2236" class="wp-caption-text">Best view from any bar in London?</p></div><p></p>

<h2 id="next-steps"><a href="https://shkspr.mobi/blog/2010/07/digital-economy-act-deappg/#next-steps">Next Steps</a></h2>

<ol>
    <li>Please, <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20100713012200/http://stakeholders.ofcom.org.uk/consultations/copyright-infringement/">respond to Ofcom's consultation</a>.</li>
    <li><a href="http://www.writetothem.com/">Write to your MP</a> and tell them of your concerns.</li>
    <li>Join the <a href="http://www.openrightsgroup.org/join">Open Rights Group</a>.</li>
</ol>

<p>You can find out more about the day at <a href="http://ericjoycemp.wordpress.com/2010/06/29/all-party-parliamentary-group-on-digital-economy-open-event-on-27-jul-10/">Eric Joyce's Blog</a>, <a href="http://kerrymccarthy.wordpress.com/2010/07/27/deappg/">Kerry McCarthy's blog</a>, <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20120316163320/https://mbmbrown.wordpress.com/tag/deappg/">Martin Brown's Digecon</a>, and no doubt more blogs to follow.</p>

<p>Huge thanks to Eric Joyce, <a href="http://www.solobasssteve.com/">Steve Lawson</a>, <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20100722074329/http://www.daltonfirth.co.uk/df.we/content/index.php">James Firth</a>, <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/hadleybeeman/">Hadley Beeman</a>, <a href="http://paulclarke.com/">Paul Clark</a>, and all others who contributed.</p>

<h2 id="bootnote"><a href="https://shkspr.mobi/blog/2010/07/digital-economy-act-deappg/#bootnote">Bootnote</a></h2>

<p>As I was taking the photos you see in this piece, a very polite policeman told me photography wasn't allowed.&nbsp; While normally <a href="https://shkspr.mobi/blog/2009/06/police-camera-action/">one to argue the toss on such matters</a> - who knows what crazy laws protect Parliament.&nbsp; As it happens, as soon as his back was turned, everyone started snapping pictures anyway.</p>
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