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		<title><![CDATA[The value of videogames (or, why I think Untitled Goose Game was a rip-off)]]></title>
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					<description><![CDATA[I have a limited amount of time on this planet. I also have a limited amount of money to spend. Therefore, like any Homo Economicus, I have a rational desire to get the most value for money for my time-wasting distractions.  So, after months of memes, I bought Untitled Goose Game on the Nintendo Switch to play over the Xmas break.  I baulked at the price - £18 - but figured since everyone else on …]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a limited amount of time on this planet. I also have a limited amount of money to spend. Therefore, like any <em>Homo Economicus</em>, I have a rational desire to get the most value for money for my time-wasting distractions.</p>

<p>So, after <a href="https://slate.com/technology/2019/10/untitled-goose-game-memes-are-about-everything-honk-honk.html">months of memes</a>, I bought Untitled Goose Game on the Nintendo Switch to play over the Xmas break.  I baulked at the price - £18 - but figured since everyone else on Twitter enjoyed it, I would as well.</p>

<p>I settled down to play it one afternoon, picked it up the next morning, and was staggered to discover I'd completed it! I am not good at video games. I didn't look up any walkthroughs.  The game is short, and pretty crappy value for money.</p>

<p>Goose is <em>fun</em> while it lasts. It's not-quite innovative, the puzzles mostly consist of move Thing A to Place B. It's charming and silly. I <em>did</em> enjoy it while I was playing. I suppose the best thing I can say about it is that the whole thing is too short to be repetitive.</p>

<p>(If you think you've read this blog post before, you're right. 5 years ago, after seeing the Internet fawn over a cutesy puzzle game, I wrote "<a href="https://shkspr.mobi/blog/2014/11/is-monument-valley-overpriced-yes/">Is Monument Valley Overpriced? Yes.</a>" I don't learn my lesson, do I?)</p>

<p>So, does the Goose experience represent value for money?</p>

<h2 id="minute"><a href="https://shkspr.mobi/blog/2020/01/the-value-of-videogames-or-why-i-think-untitled-goose-game-was-a-rip-off/#minute">£/minute</a></h2>

<p>£18 for 5 hours' of entertainment is about the same price-per-minute as a couple of cinema tickets to see the latest Star Wars movie. It's cheaper than going out for cocktails, or a fancy meal.</p>

<p>But it's vastly more expensive than reading a book. The average book I read tends to have a value of about £0.50-per-hour.</p>

<p>OK, but videogames are a different experience to other forms of entertainment.</p>

<p>Goose's £3.60/hour pales into comparison to any of the thousands of free games available on mobile. Many of them are just as fun and innovative. And, did I mention, much cheaper.</p>

<p>My wife plays a lot of open-world games on the PlayStation 4.  A second-hand copy of The Witcher, Spider-Man, or any other recent AAA game costs around £20 and offers literally hundreds of hours of gameplay.</p>

<h2 id="novelty-as-value"><a href="https://shkspr.mobi/blog/2020/01/the-value-of-videogames-or-why-i-think-untitled-goose-game-was-a-rip-off/#novelty-as-value">Novelty as value</a></h2>

<p>There's another aspect - how much do you value original experiences.</p>

<blockquote class="social-embed" id="social-embed-1209029725496188929" lang="en" itemscope="" itemtype="https://schema.org/SocialMediaPosting"><blockquote class="social-embed" id="social-embed-1208866529519030274" lang="en" itemscope="" itemtype="https://schema.org/SocialMediaPosting"><header class="social-embed-header" itemprop="author" itemscope="" itemtype="https://schema.org/Person"><a href="https://twitter.com/edent" class="social-embed-user" itemprop="url"><img class="social-embed-avatar social-embed-avatar-circle" src="data:image/webp;base64,UklGRkgBAABXRUJQVlA4IDwBAACQCACdASowADAAPrVQn0ynJCKiJyto4BaJaQAIIsx4Au9dhDqVA1i1RoRTO7nbdyy03nM5FhvV62goUj37tuxqpfpPeTBZvrJ78w0qAAD+/hVyFHvYXIrMCjny0z7wqsB9/QE08xls/AQdXJFX0adG9lISsm6kV96J5FINBFXzHwfzMCr4N6r3z5/Aa/wfEoVGX3H976she3jyS8RqJv7Jw7bOxoTSPlu4gNbfXYZ9TnbdQ0MNnMObyaRQLIu556jIj03zfJrVgqRM8GPwRoWb1M9AfzFe6Mtg13uEIqrTHmiuBpH+bTVB5EEQ3uby0C//XOAPJOFv4QV8RZDPQd517Khyba8Jlr97j2kIBJD9K3mbOHSHiQDasj6Y3forATbIg4QZHxWnCeqqMkVYfUAivuL0L/68mMnagAAA" alt="" itemprop="image"><div class="social-embed-user-names"><p class="social-embed-user-names-name" itemprop="name">Terence Eden is on Mastodon</p>@edent</div></a><img class="social-embed-logo" alt="Twitter" src="data:image/svg+xml,%3Csvg%20xmlns%3D%22http%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2F2000%2Fsvg%22%0Aaria-label%3D%22Twitter%22%20role%3D%22img%22%0AviewBox%3D%220%200%20512%20512%22%3E%3Cpath%0Ad%3D%22m0%200H512V512H0%22%0Afill%3D%22%23fff%22%2F%3E%3Cpath%20fill%3D%22%231d9bf0%22%20d%3D%22m458%20140q-23%2010-45%2012%2025-15%2034-43-24%2014-50%2019a79%2079%200%2000-135%2072q-101-7-163-83a80%2080%200%200024%20106q-17%200-36-10s-3%2062%2064%2079q-19%205-36%201s15%2053%2074%2055q-50%2040-117%2033a224%20224%200%2000346-200q23-16%2040-41%22%2F%3E%3C%2Fsvg%3E"></header><section class="social-embed-text" itemprop="articleBody"><small class="social-embed-reply"><a href="https://twitter.com/edent/status/1208725243457609728">Replying to @edent</a></small>The more I think about it, the grumpier I get with <a href="https://twitter.com/panic">@panic</a>'s <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/UntitledGooseGame">#UntitledGooseGame</a>.<br><br>It is fun, while it lasts. But it is just *so* short. No replayability. A few good puzzles, and highly memetic, sure. But it's a rip-off in £-per-minute of enjoyment.<br><br>Oh well, lesson learned.</section><hr class="social-embed-hr"><footer class="social-embed-footer"><a href="https://twitter.com/edent/status/1208866529519030274"><span aria-label="1 likes" class="social-embed-meta">❤️ 1</span><span aria-label="0 replies" class="social-embed-meta">💬 0</span><span aria-label="0 reposts" class="social-embed-meta">🔁 0</span><time datetime="2019-12-22T21:46:54.000Z" itemprop="datePublished">21:46 - Sun 22 December 2019</time></a></footer></blockquote><header class="social-embed-header" itemprop="author" itemscope="" itemtype="https://schema.org/Person"><a href="https://twitter.com/LaurieJ" class="social-embed-user" itemprop="url"><img class="social-embed-avatar social-embed-avatar-circle" src="data:image/webp;base64,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" alt="" itemprop="image"><div class="social-embed-user-names"><p class="social-embed-user-names-name" itemprop="name">Laura James</p>@LaurieJ</div></a><img class="social-embed-logo" alt="Twitter" src="data:image/svg+xml,%3Csvg%20xmlns%3D%22http%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2F2000%2Fsvg%22%0Aaria-label%3D%22Twitter%22%20role%3D%22img%22%0AviewBox%3D%220%200%20512%20512%22%3E%3Cpath%0Ad%3D%22m0%200H512V512H0%22%0Afill%3D%22%23fff%22%2F%3E%3Cpath%20fill%3D%22%231d9bf0%22%20d%3D%22m458%20140q-23%2010-45%2012%2025-15%2034-43-24%2014-50%2019a79%2079%200%2000-135%2072q-101-7-163-83a80%2080%200%200024%20106q-17%200-36-10s-3%2062%2064%2079q-19%205-36%201s15%2053%2074%2055q-50%2040-117%2033a224%20224%200%2000346-200q23-16%2040-41%22%2F%3E%3C%2Fsvg%3E"></header><section class="social-embed-text" itemprop="articleBody"><small class="social-embed-reply"><a href="https://twitter.com/edent/status/1208866529519030274">Replying to @edent</a></small><a href="https://twitter.com/edent">@edent</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/panic">@panic</a> I see the $/hr argument, but the novelty of the game - how memorable and accessible it is, compared to so many other games - makes it worth the premium to me. Ludic value</section><hr class="social-embed-hr"><footer class="social-embed-footer"><a href="https://twitter.com/LaurieJ/status/1209029725496188929"><span aria-label="0 likes" class="social-embed-meta">❤️ 0</span><span aria-label="1 replies" class="social-embed-meta">💬 1</span><span aria-label="0 reposts" class="social-embed-meta">🔁 0</span><time datetime="2019-12-23T08:35:23.000Z" itemprop="datePublished">08:35 - Mon 23 December 2019</time></a></footer></blockquote>

<p>I'd rather go to a new restaurant than eat in the same place twice. As <a href="https://untappd.com/user/edent">my Untappd data shows</a>, I've never met a new beer that I didn't want to try!</p>

<p>Goose is novel. I've never played as a mischievous bird before. So, reluctantly, I accept the Ludic Value argument.</p>

<h2 id="shared-experience-as-value"><a href="https://shkspr.mobi/blog/2020/01/the-value-of-videogames-or-why-i-think-untitled-goose-game-was-a-rip-off/#shared-experience-as-value">Shared experience as value</a></h2>

<blockquote><p>The real gameplay was the memes we made along the way?
<a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20200925012449/https://twitter.com/gothytim/status/1208729063780691968?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@GothyTim</a></p></blockquote>

<p>And, I guess this is the real reason I see the new Star Wars movies on their opening day. I want to share the experiences with my friends. I don't want to have to dodge spoilers, I want to understand the cryptic memes,</p>

<p>So, this is the future. I can go and read "Moby Dick" for free, and maybe I'll be able to find some dusty social-network where people endlessly discuss Herman Melville.  Or I can have a moment of zeitgeist which relies on a mass of people simultaneously experiencing novelty.  That's (part of) the reason people buy new books, watch new films, and play new games - even when there's an infinite amount of better, cheaper entertainment.</p>

<h2 id="its-football-isnt-it"><a href="https://shkspr.mobi/blog/2020/01/the-value-of-videogames-or-why-i-think-untitled-goose-game-was-a-rip-off/#its-football-isnt-it">It's football, isn't it?</a></h2>

<p>I've never understood the sorts of sports fan who say "<em>We</em> won against Melchester!" - obviously they had nothing to do with it.</p>

<p>But they had a shared experience. One which evoked feelings of tribal loyalty, the drama of success and failure, and the soap-opera of personalities.  The value isn't in the winning or losing - it's in the discussing with friends, reliving the good times, and feeling part of a community.</p>

<p>I guess I don't have that gene, so will go back to playing obscure, single-player games, with no community, for free.</p>
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