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		<title><![CDATA[Councillor Carl Thomson's Deleted Tweets]]></title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2012 09:59:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Regular readers will know that I think Woking Council&#039;s subsidy of curchgoers is ridiculous, illegal, and unfair.  It&#039;s an issue I&#039;ve raised with local councillor Carl Thomson in writing and on Twitter.  A few days ago I entered into a discussion with him online about the issue. He has since deleted the tweets.  But, as we know, the Internet has a long memory - so here they are.  I&#039;ve reordered a …]]></description>
										<content:encoded>&lt;p&gt;Regular readers will know that I think &lt;a href="https://shkspr.mobi/blog/2012/06/and-the-lord-sayeth-thou-shalt-give-free-parking-to-the-faithful/"&gt;Woking Council's subsidy of curchgoers&lt;/a&gt; is ridiculous, illegal, and unfair.  It's an issue I've raised with local councillor Carl Thomson in writing and on Twitter.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;A few days ago I entered into a discussion with him online about the issue. He has since deleted the tweets.  But, as we know, &lt;a href="http://techcrunch.com/2012/05/30/the-internet-never-forgets-politwoops-saves-the-tweets-your-politicians-tried-to-delete/"&gt;the Internet has a long memory&lt;/a&gt; - so here they are.  I've reordered a few to make our conversation clearer. None of my tweets have been deleted.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;It started when I saw him talking about Lords reform.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&amp;lt;https://twitter.com/CllrCarlThomson/status/224956920946110464&amp;gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;As far as I am aware, local councillors have very little impact on the subject. Of greater concern to &lt;em&gt;this&lt;/em&gt; resident is the religious discrimination promoted by him and the Tory council. I asked about it, and got a very curt reply.&lt;/p&gt;

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&lt;p&gt;Suddenly, Carl sent this rather passive aggressive tweet. (NB due to GMT/BST this next tweet was sent 15 minutes after the previous one.)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://twitter.com/CllrCarlThomson/status/224968730021593089"&gt;https://twitter.com/CllrCarlThomson/status/224968730021593089&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I couldn't see anyone accusing him of corruption, certainly not me. I can't even imagine why he bought it up.&lt;/p&gt;

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&lt;blockquote class="social-embed" id="social-embed-224973728159768577" lang="en" itemscope="" itemtype="https://schema.org/SocialMediaPosting"&gt;&lt;header class="social-embed-header" itemprop="author" itemscope="" itemtype="https://schema.org/Person"&gt;&lt;a href="https://twitter.com/edent" class="social-embed-user" itemprop="url"&gt;&lt;img class="social-embed-avatar social-embed-avatar-circle" src="data:image/webp;base64,UklGRkgBAABXRUJQVlA4IDwBAACQCACdASowADAAPrVQn0ynJCKiJyto4BaJaQAIIsx4Au9dhDqVA1i1RoRTO7nbdyy03nM5FhvV62goUj37tuxqpfpPeTBZvrJ78w0qAAD+/hVyFHvYXIrMCjny0z7wqsB9/QE08xls/AQdXJFX0adG9lISsm6kV96J5FINBFXzHwfzMCr4N6r3z5/Aa/wfEoVGX3H976she3jyS8RqJv7Jw7bOxoTSPlu4gNbfXYZ9TnbdQ0MNnMObyaRQLIu556jIj03zfJrVgqRM8GPwRoWb1M9AfzFe6Mtg13uEIqrTHmiuBpH+bTVB5EEQ3uby0C//XOAPJOFv4QV8RZDPQd517Khyba8Jlr97j2kIBJD9K3mbOHSHiQDasj6Y3forATbIg4QZHxWnCeqqMkVYfUAivuL0L/68mMnagAAA" alt="" itemprop="image"&gt;&lt;div class="social-embed-user-names"&gt;&lt;p class="social-embed-user-names-name" itemprop="name"&gt;Terence Eden is on Mastodon&lt;/p&gt;@edent&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;img class="social-embed-logo" alt="Twitter" src="data:image/svg+xml,%3Csvg%20xmlns%3D%22http%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2F2000%2Fsvg%22%0Aaria-label%3D%22Twitter%22%20role%3D%22img%22%0AviewBox%3D%220%200%20512%20512%22%3E%3Cpath%0Ad%3D%22m0%200H512V512H0%22%0Afill%3D%22%23fff%22%2F%3E%3Cpath%20fill%3D%22%231d9bf0%22%20d%3D%22m458%20140q-23%2010-45%2012%2025-15%2034-43-24%2014-50%2019a79%2079%200%2000-135%2072q-101-7-163-83a80%2080%200%200024%20106q-17%200-36-10s-3%2062%2064%2079q-19%205-36%201s15%2053%2074%2055q-50%2040-117%2033a224%20224%200%2000346-200q23-16%2040-41%22%2F%3E%3C%2Fsvg%3E"&gt;&lt;/header&gt;&lt;section class="social-embed-text" itemprop="articleBody"&gt;@CllrCarlThomson but what I don't get: majority of churchgoers said reintroduced fees wouldn't stop them attending. So who do you represent?&lt;/section&gt;&lt;hr class="social-embed-hr"&gt;&lt;footer class="social-embed-footer"&gt;&lt;a href="https://twitter.com/edent/status/224973728159768577"&gt;&lt;span aria-label="0 likes" class="social-embed-meta"&gt;❤️ 0&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span aria-label="0 replies" class="social-embed-meta"&gt;💬 0&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span aria-label="0 reposts" class="social-embed-meta"&gt;🔁 0&lt;/span&gt;&lt;time datetime="2012-07-16T21:08:11.000Z" itemprop="datePublished"&gt;21:08 - Mon 16 July 2012&lt;/time&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/footer&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

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&lt;p&gt;And that's the sum of it. It baffles me why he has deleted the tweets. Sure, he was slightly rude to start with - but given the late hour it's not the worst of crimes.  I'm no Paxman, so I can't imagine my questions taxed him - although, like Paxo, I never received an adequate reply.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;In the meantime, Woking continues pouring away money to religious groups who neither need nor want subsidising.  But that's a subject for another blog post...&lt;/p&gt;
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