Thanks for the response and that bit I get so I can turn them on and off manually and they will remember their last setting when they are switched back on. What I am interested in is dimming etc when they are on which it looks like can only be done from the Smart Life app. I appreciate I've bought cheap Chinese bulbs in favour of more expensive Hive, Philips etc but I was hoping to be able to be able to program a wifi switch to relay commands to be bulbs. Maybe I am being optimistic?