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					<description><![CDATA[Following on from my encounter with the police, I decided to file a complaint against Office 4825 for refusing to show me his ID via the BTP&#039;s public complaint form.  Dear Sir or Madam,Office 4825 of the British Transport Police refused to show my his ID or Warrant Card when asked.  I had been stopped under S.44(2) of The Terrorism Act 2000.  The incident happened at around 0854BST on…]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Following on from my <a href="https://shkspr.mobi/blog/2008/08/am-i-a-dick/">encounter with the police</a>, I decided to file a complaint against Office 4825 for refusing to show me his ID via the <a href="http://www.btp.police.uk/contact_us/give_us_feedback/complaints_against_individuals.aspx">BTP's public complaint form</a>.<br><br></p>

<blockquote>Dear Sir or Madam,<br><br>Office 4825 of the British Transport Police refused to show my his ID or Warrant Card when asked.  I had been stopped under S.44(2) of The Terrorism Act 2000.  The incident happened at around 0854BST on 19/08/2008.<br><br>The officer was, I consider, rude and unprofessional. He made a protracted phone call using what appeared to be a private mobile phone (not on the TETRA system) indicating personal information about me and my whereabouts.  He would not give me any information about the call.<br><br>I have captured the incident on camera and you may view it at <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20080821230801/http://politics.phreadz.com/p/15ROH206TI2T/">politics.phreadz.com/p/15ROH206TI2T/</a><br><br>I would like the following<br>1) Confirmation that this man is indeed a member of the British Transport Police.<br>2) Details about whether this man was correct not to show me his identification.<br>3) Details of the phone call he placed concerning me.  Please let me know if I need to submit a separate FOI request for this. <span style="font-style: italic;">[In retrospect, I think I should be asking under the <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20080828152720/http://www.ico.gov.uk/what_we_cover/data_protection.aspx">DPA</a> not the <a href="http://www.opsi.gov.uk/Acts/acts2000/ukpga_20000036_en_1">FOIA</a>]</span><br><br>Many thanks<br><br>Terence Eden<br></blockquote>

<p><br>I was impressed with their speed of response. Less than 24 hours.<br></p>

<blockquote><br>Mr. Eden<br><br>I can confirm that Officer 4825 is a British Transport Police Officer.<br><br>If an officer is in plain clothes he is obliged to show identification<br><br>In respect of the telephone call that was made, I cannot assist with that.<br><br>Regards<br><br>William Farrell<br><br>PSD Office Manager<br></blockquote>

<p><br><br>It is correct, so I discover from investigation, that uniformed officers don't have to show ID.  I think that's a shame.  If they've got nothing to hide, they've got nothing to fear.<br><br>I really don't think I can be bothered chasing this with the BTP any further.  I've stood up to authority and survived. I will continue to <a href="http://www.writetothem.com/">write to my MP</a> and <a href="https://www.libertyhumanrights.org.uk/">keep the money flowing to Liberty</a>.<br><br>Many thanks to Cory at <a href="http://www.boingboing.net/2008/08/19/visitor-to-london-vi.html">Boing Boing for featuring my story</a>. To <a href="http://qik.com/">QIK</a> for providing a streaming service. To <a href="http://kosso.co.uk/">Kosso</a> at <a href="http://phreadz.com/">Phreadz</a> for creating a fantastic video discussion forum.  Thanks also for <a href="http://peteashton.com/2008/08/stopped_under_s44_of_the_terrorism_act_2000/">all</a> <a href="http://www.craigmcginty.com/news/2008/08/stopped-under-s.html">those</a> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130326160130/http://forums.macnn.com/95/political-war-lounge/375075/stopped-under-s-44-terrorism-act/">who've</a> <a href="https://sparkshouse.com/wordpress/?p=231">blogged </a> and <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20080823102801/http://digg.com:80/political_opinion/Citizen_randomly_searched_under_S_44_of_the_Terrorism_Act/">digged</a> this (sorry if I missed any).  Please keep the comments, tweets and jaikus coming in - it's been fascinating to read both the positive and negative views people have of my actions.<br><br>Finally, a huge amount of love and respect to my wife, Liz, for not making me sleep on the sofa last night ;-) She understands me like no one else.<br><br>This blog now returns to wittering about QR Codes, mobile phones and Shakespeare.</p>
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